Sunday, February 3, 2013

Trollkin War Wagon Painting Progress

Been hard at work on my Trollkin War Wagon.  It's coming along really well.

I based the metal with P3 Pig Iron and followed that up with a mixture of P3 Pig Iron, P3 Thamar Black, and P3 Mixing Medium.  I then gave the whole thing a heavy wash of Citadel Badab Black and dry brushed on some P3 Cold Steel.

The wood was based in P3 Bloodstone with a wash made up of P3 Bloodstone, P3 Cygnar Blue Base, and P3 Mixing Medium.  I then drybrushed the wood with a mixture of P3 Bloodstone and P3 Menoth White Base.  The portion of wood on the gun has not had the wash or highlighting applied to it yet as I originally missed that portion of wood when I went over the model.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the way the model has turned out so far.  I have mixed feelings bout whether or not I want to try to replicate the rust and discoloration from the studio paint scheme or if I want to leave it as is.  The studio paint scheme also features what appears to be some bronze areas and I'm not sure if I want to do that either.  I'll need to find something to test rusty effects on as I don't want to inadvertently ruin any section of what I've already got done and have to reapply the steps if it doesn't work out.


  1. How do you find the P3 metallics? I've been slowing switching over to P3 paints from citadel in general but I still have all GW metallics.

    I don't use too many metals but if the time comes, I'd like to move over to P3 because I like the pots and quantities more.


  2. To be honest, I'm a painting novice. I'm not sure what's considered good paint.

    So far I've found them to be a bit thicker than the other paints in the line. I don't know if that is the norm or not but they go on pretty thick on their own while a lot of the other paints in the line take a little bit of effort to get them to cover on the first pass.

    I had actually been attempting to follow the paint mixing guide that Privateer Press provides here hence the second coat of Pig Iron mixed with Thamar Black. It ended up being thicker than I wanted it to be and I added too much black so rather than getting a smooth layer that blended I got a darker layer that wasn't thing enough to use as a wash. My response was to slather it all over the model and pull out Badab Black from my Citadel line and see how that worked. I ended up really liking the result but wish I knew more about paint and how to do what I was trying to do.

    I don't really have a good tool for mixing or measuring paints and I'm not really sure how to go about thinning them with water. To be honest, I'm not even really sure how much Mixing Medium I should have been using either, that may have been part of the issue.

  3. Fair enough. Thanks for the reply.

    I'll check out some P3 metallics when I next get the chance. I agree that finding the right balance of watering them down (with medium or H20) really makes them shine. I add some water to most of the paint pots I buy when I get them but each pot is slightly different as the amount that is good.

    I have a little dropper pipette to use for adding water but a simple way is just to dunk your brush fully into your water jar, take it out and let a few drops run off it into the paint pot. Easy enough to do and then with a good shake you mix up the paint well. I recommend getting some non-reactive beads or balls (glass or ceramic for example) to put in your paint pots as you can shake it up very easily this way.

    In general I try to play with each paint when I get it to have a feel of how much water it needs (or not) then add a bit, test again, add a bit etc.

    Once you have the right amount it makes the paint that much easier to use.

    Great looking Troll Wagon by the way. I should have commented on that first. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product :-)

    All the best


  4. Thanks for the compliment.

    I tried using the brush water droplet technique, it's been going really well for thinning on a palette.

    I don't really like to thin the paints in the pot. I like to get a good thick basecoat layer and build from there and if I thin my paints in the pot that can be harder to do. Instead I've been thinning on the palette and leaving the paint at its natural thickness in the pot.